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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    Hi Lee,,I have 2 H&R stocks. Both have the "cattle brand" H mark under the butt plates. One has an elongated P like TRW the other is a regular non serif P. Both have the pin prick dimples on the ferrules.Both have nice DAS stamps.Pics not possible right now till I replace the hard drive on MY puter. Using my Sons laptop right now.I will check my photobucket album,I may have sent pics to Ironworker from there.

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    I thought I had a HR stock here, but I just looked and no go. I'll look at the stocks I have downstate when I go back down on Monday and see if any are HR or Winnie. The Winnie stock I have up here doesn't have the DOD or circle "P"
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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    Original post updated. The research is not complete on this topic but the following are facts regarding 1960s era wood M14 stocks:

    1) All five stock makers used both birch and walnut.
    2) All five stock makers used the pin punch (dimple) method of staking the ferrule.
    3) At least four of five stock makers used the crimping (half-moon) method of staking the ferrule.
    4) Both Springfield Armory and TRW used both Arial and serif font proof P stamps.
    5) Springfield Armory assembled M14 rifles with Springfield Armory and H. Sacks & Sons, Inc. wood stocks.

    If you have a Winchester-Western (W-W stamped) stock with a DOD cartouche and proof P stamp, does it have an Arial or serif font P mark? Anyone have a H stamped stock with a half-moon crimped ferrule? TIA
    Last edited by Different; 29th December 2013 at 09:24 AM.

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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    Both the birch stocks I got recently from Fred's are Winchester with serif Ps. I can try and get some pictures up this weekend, if you'd like.

    ETA: just noticed one of which is a little warped to one side, awesome...
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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    If you have additional or clarifying information, please reply to this thread or PM me. TIA

    Rifle Mfr Stock Mfr Stock Mfr Stamp Birch Walnut Ferrule Half-Moon Crimp Ferrule Dimple Serif P Arial P Other Butt End Markings Other Markings
    Harrington & Richardson Arms HRA H Y Y ? Y ? Y single numeral DAS in normal location
    Springfield Armory H. Sacks & Sons, Inc. S under half-diamond Y Y Y Y Y Y 7791174,11010263 DAS in normal location
    Springfield Armory Springfield Armory S.A. or SA Y Y Y Y Y Y single numeral DAS in normal location
    TRW S.E. Overton Co. O Y Y Y Y Y Y none DAS in normal location
    Unknown Ballard Pool & Cue or Bishop? B Y Y ? Y Y ? none DAS in normal location
    Olin Mathieson Winchester-Western W-W Y Y Y Y Y Y 11010263 DAS in normal location, on buttstock or trigger guard inlet
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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    I've seen some of those B marked stocks and always thought it was an after mark of some sort. Thanks for providing the chart above. I wonder if they could also have been made for TRW?
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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

    Hawk, the "B" stamped stocks could have been made for TRW and/or Springfield Armory. The research continues.

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    I've seen some of those B marked stocks and always thought it was an after mark of some sort. Thanks for providing the chart above. I wonder if they could also have been made for TRW?
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    I've seen some of those B marked stocks and always thought it was an after mark of some sort. Thanks for providing the chart above. I wonder if they could also have been made for TRW?
    Howdy! Nooby here....Hi All.....

    I hope this is the proper place to respond to an older thread.

    I have 2 NOS Replacement stocks w/ the "B" marked on the butt at abt 5 o'clock.
    Both are Walnut, Dimpled Ferrule, Radiused Bbl Channel sides, but Squared on the left side at the rcvr.
    Radiused Porch, and single step inletting at rear of Trg Guard.

    Neither have DAS or firing proof...
    Both have been inletted for Bedding...

    These came w/ a batch of parts that seem like they came from a facility building Match Rifles..

    2 others that had seen service have the SN written in the Bbl Channel, one is the full 6 digit #, and looking like the same type of marking found on Garand NM rifles,
    silvery colored fine paint pen.
    The inletting appears to be the same style as the 2 NOS "B" pieces.

    The 2nd is marked w/ a bulkier silvery instrument and the bedding is sloppier.
    There were a few others that were in the batch that were also USGI In Service rifles.

    I can post pics if anybody wants, once I figure out how.

    Also I have one from a different batch of Surplus stocks that had cardboard wrapped as a Butt Protector, and underneath was a label.

    Any Ideas?

    I hope the pic comes thru.

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    Re: M14 Parts - USGI Wood Stock Identification

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