The M1 Carbine Penatration Failures In Korea

[Tarheel Trooper]

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I'd like to have a few of those 45 dollar Carbines and 90 dollar Garands...

[Sustinemus]

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I'd like to have a few of those dollars that were worth enough to buy something!

Do you remember when making 4 dollars an hour was really good pay?

It isn't the value of the carbines or the Garands that changed, folks.

[VanHahner]

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I'd like to have a few of those 45 dollar Carbines and 90 dollar Garands...

Actually it's about the same then as now ! In 1950 it would of took you sixteen days eight hours days of wages to buy that carbine at .75 an hour for $45.00

Average minimum wage per hour now is around $ 8.00 per hour.
It would take you 15 eight hours days to buy a new $960.00 carbine.

[Sustinemus]

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Yup. Like I said, it isn't the value of the carbines that changed.
It's the value (man-hours of labor) of the dollars that changed.
It's a crying shame.
Is there ANYTHING you can buy for a penny now?

[wrwindsor]

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Is there ANYTHING you can buy for a penny now?

A dirty look.

[Sustinemus]

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There used to be a coin-operated rocking horse machine in front of a grocery store near here where you entertain a toddler for a penny. I think it's been gone for years now. That was the last thing I knew that I could buy with a penny.

[Kid Sopris]

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My dad, served in Korea with the US Army..His two brothers also served during the Korean War, but never left California...My dad says he was so tall almost 6'05" in his prime presented to big of a target, so the CO made him the Company Clerk...They gave him a M1 Carbine and a Typewriter...The CO told him that he didn't care if he lost the rifle, BUT if the typewriter was lost or destroyed he was going to spend his remaining time in the Brig...LOL

[BLinde]

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It is kind of funny - Peoples perception of how things work. My Dad was in the Navy in WWII, served in the Pacific and in particular in the Philippines. Ran the mail to the "front lines" among his other duties. He opened up a few times about guns and stuff - usually when I brought home some cool MG or gear. He commented on the Garand Vs Carbine - his take was that in the jungle the garand was over powered , and just poked little 30 cal holes in Japs. He preferred the carbine for fire power. Never mentioned any issues with it not killing japs at ranges that were close in the jungle terrain. As a kid, I wanted a garand, and when one was for sale Dad put the kibosh on that because it was "WAY to much firepower for a kid to have" ( remember that back in the 60s, kids could buy guns) . My Dad smuggled two carbines back from the Pacific, but traded them off over the years. Really wish I had them now.... He did get a real nice P-38 for one of them, I carried and shot that a lot as a kid. Still have it.

[Trung Si]

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The under/non penetration of the carbine in Korea is Internet Bulls--t that has been repeated so many times that it became the truth, It's Bullsh-t!

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

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All I know is that my dad served in Korea and loved the M1 rifle and the BAR

[Dwight55]

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I never heard the stories . . . but I took one look at that little pipsqueak of a rifle and was glad my issue arm was a Garand.

Don't get me wrong . . . I don't like a Garand . . . never did . . . ain't gonna either . . . but I'd take it any day over the carbine.

I just thought it looked like some kind of a pipsqueak . . . was ugly . . . and looking at the rounds . . . didn't seem to be a big bunch bigger than a .22

Much as I did not like the Garand . . . I also knew it had a reputation for hitting what you aimed at . . . didn't know squat about that little guy. Most of our convoy routes were over terrain where it was rice paddy's on both sides of the road . . . and no timber for 100 yds and beyond . . . so I figured I needed something that would "reach out and touch someone".

But my 2nd favorite day of that tour was the day I traded that Garand in for a brand new cosmolene covered M14.

May God bless,
Dwight

[Trung Si]

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I never heard the stories . . . but I took one look at that little pipsqueak of a rifle and was glad my issue arm was a Garand.

Don't get me wrong . . . I don't like a Garand . . . never did . . . ain't gonna either . . . but I'd take it any day over the carbine.

I just thought it looked like some kind of a pipsqueak . . . was ugly . . . and looking at the rounds . . . didn't seem to be a big bunch bigger than a .22

Much as I did not like the Garand . . . I also knew it had a reputation for hitting what you aimed at . . . didn't know squat about that little guy. Most of our convoy routes were over terrain where it was rice paddy's on both sides of the road . . . and no timber for 100 yds and beyond . . . so I figured I needed something that would "reach out and touch someone".

But my 2nd favorite day of that tour was the day I traded that Garand in for a brand new cosmolene covered M14.

May God bless,
Dwight

That little guy killed a lot of people in the Pacific, Europe in WWII and in Korea plus even in Vietnam, if I had a choice of being shot by a Carbine or an M1, I would choose neither, I don't want to be shot by anything.

[VanHahner]

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If I had a choice of being shot by a Carbine or an M1, I would choose neither, I don't want to be shot by anything.

Speaking of which, even a thrown rock can kill ya !

[Trung Si]

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Speaking of which, even a thrown rock can kill ya !

True That!

[Trung Si]

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The whole thread has evolved in to a chicken fighting thing, the original point of this thread was the penetrating force of the M1 Carbine and believe me it's plenty, the tales of the Carbine round not penetrating norks heavy clothing is a myth, most likely a MISS!