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Thread: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    In the late 80s the USMC rifle team ran service rifle training clinics at Camp Perry for state junior team shooters. They related a story to the kids about barrel vibrations and the importance of holding the rifle consistently shot to shot . They told them with an M14 in a machine rest shooting inside 10s and Xs, if they balanced a dime on the barrel behind the flash suppressor the rifle would shoot 9s and outside 10s.

    Now I heard this from one of our state junior team kids. I did not see the actual demo. And the story was told by Marines. So file this under "for what it's worth".
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    If a Marine told it...… it By God must be true......LOL
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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    Believe it or not, the dime thing was almost a standard practice for boots at Camp Pendleton, when they snapped in the week before qualifying.

    I have done the dime thing myself probably a half a dozen times in the prone position with a sling , but we balanced the dime between the two front sight protectors.
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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    Never had the chance to shoot the M40, but I did own a M40A1, not a replica.. This rifle was the most accurate rifle I have came into contact with, ever.. Some of The Sniper Spr.'s were very accurate but they were not in the class of the M40A1, not really close in my experience..

    Hope this helps.. The Comet

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    Not to be a nit picker but wasn't the saying," Primer up powder down" ?

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    Have not heard that version about the dime, but it was a common practice to have someone balance a coin on the F S. during dry fire drills to see if it stayed there when the trig. was pulled. Also, the practice of the Shooter handed a M14 not knowing if it was loaded, this was done mostly for offhand live fire..

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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    The good old days !


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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    Yep! Remember those during quals
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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanHahner View Post
    I am guessing those highway markers were used to blacken sights?
    We used carbide lamps.

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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    Yep, that's what we used in 66/67 at Edson Range Camp Pendleton! (We then called them Smoke Pots)
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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    So the dime thing is true.

    Thanks for restoring my faith in stories told by Marines (at least some of them).

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    Comet I think the term was primer up vs down rather powder up vs down.

    But I still cannot find the articles I thought I saved regarding that issue.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: The M1,,, 7.62mm vs 30-06 ?

    True as true can be ! If the dime falls off, imagine the effect it would have on the trajectory of the bullet !
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