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Thread: M14, 7.62 NATO, 1,000 yards w/ 175 gr. Matchkings -- do I need a 20 MOA rail

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    M14, 7.62 NATO, 1,000 yards w/ 175 gr. Matchkings -- do I need a 20 MOA rail

    For shooting 7.62 NATO 175-gr. Matchkings out to 1,000 yards, do I need LRB Arms' 20 MOA rail to avoid having to hold over with Nightforce scopes? I mean, should I expect to run out of vertical adjustment travel unless I have the 20 MOA downtaper rail from LRB Arms? -- CS

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    Re: M14, 7.62 NATO, 1,000 yards w/ 175 gr. Matchkings -- do I need a 20 MOA rail

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    For shooting 7.62 NATO 175-gr. Matchkings out to 1,000 yards, do I need LRB Arms' 20 MOA rail to avoid having to hold over with Nightforce scopes? I mean, should I expect to run out of vertical adjustment travel unless I have the 20 MOA downtaper rail from LRB Arms? -- CS
    My come ups from 100 to 600 is 15 MOA. To go to 1000, 22 more MOA give or take one or two, you'll be on the money. 37 MOA, possibly another one or two from 100. Most 30mm scopes should get you in the black without a 20 MOA rail. At the same time, a little extra wouldn't hurt at all! The SS scopes from SWFA,have a total of 150 MOA, will easily get you to 1000 yards.

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    I would recommend the 20 MOA rail or use the MRAD reticle.
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    Re: M14, 7.62 NATO, 1,000 yards w/ 175 gr. Matchkings -- do I need a 20 MOA rail

    While the 20 min. rail can't hurt, it probably is not necessary. The Night Force scopes have plenty of built in elevation to work with. On the other hand, some rifles may have issues that cause them to shoot too low and require additional elevation. As usual, it all depends.
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    Re: M14, 7.62 NATO, 1,000 yards w/ 175 gr. Matchkings -- do I need a 20 MOA rail

    TT, this is great info as I have only shot out to 600 yds.
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