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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    The difference is clarity of glass, paralax, tactile and repeatability. For the money a Gen 2 PST Vortex simply can not be beaten. Yes, there are better out there but the PST will compete strongly against double the money scopes. The FFP Gen 1 Vortex PST is an excellent option on the used market.

    I'd put the PST up against any Leupold Mark 3 and below.
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Quote Originally Posted by VanHahner View Post
    Buying scopes is somewhat like buying a car.

    Some have a lot of horsepower, but the odometer probably won't see 200,000 miles, others have a lot of options like seat memory control and audio / video / navigation / remote Start / bluetooth integration and what not, but according to Consumer Guide that model might be in the shop more than others.
    It pays to look at all your options !

    For me personally, I'm satisfied with a 3-9 variable low budget $250 Nikon Scope. As long as I can see the target and the reticle stays put I'm satisfied, but if I was shooting say 600 yards, or more I might want to step it up a notch or two !
    Same for me. I have several Nikon scopes < $300 and they work great for me. Of course I only do bench shooting at 300yds and less so I don't need all the harsh durability that others need. I am a cheapskate and can't imagine paying $5k for a scope! ( I could buy several nice rifles for that !! )

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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Also I might add, that the $250 Nikon I have today is twice the scope that I had on my bolt back in Nam !

    The 3x9 Redfield, was nothing special, other than a commercial off the shelf scope that was anodized green for the military.


    Scope technology and manufacturing, has come along way in 50 years!
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    I have no experience in scopes until the last few years as I've never needed them. Now I have two Nikons and I can speak well of them, but I have nothing of which to compare.
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Not saying anything bad about modern scopes but as to vintage scopes I use a 20X Unertl barrel mounted scope on my smallbore 40X rifle. My wife uses a 24X Redfield 3200 on her smallbore 40X. Cannot complain about either. They both track great.

    That said vintage scopes are always a crap shoot as to whether or not they track.

    I need to get the .30/06 Winchester Model 70 target with the Lyman Super Targetspot 15X and shoot some groups. That would be a wannabe sniper combo.
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    My problem is most of the scopes ; I do not like their Reticles. I'm now looking at a scope that is 16 X 56. I never had a fixed power scope. just wondering if I will like it.

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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Depends on the range. I think a fixed 16 would be tough to use less than 3-400 yards.
    I’d prefer a 10x if I had to be fixed.
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    I have both a 10X and a 16X. There is not a lot of visible difference between the two; mostly field of view of the 16X is smaller than the 10X.
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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel Trooper View Post
    Depends on the range. I think a fixed 16 would be tough to use less than 3-400 yards.
    I’d prefer a 10x if I had to be fixed.
    this is what I need to know; right now is 100 yards is all I have for shooting;;; but at the same time I'm buying for the future in case I find a longer range to shoot at.

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    Re: Difference in scope quality

    Quote Originally Posted by chief on one View Post
    this is what I need to know; right now is 100 yards is all I have for shooting;;; but at the same time I'm buying for the future in case I find a longer range to shoot at.
    The old USArmy Marksmanship Unit Manual recommended 15X max for 1000 yard shooting. I believe if mirage is bad a high mag scope can cause problems - it magnifies all the mirage between you and the target.

    We have not had problems at 100 yards with 24X and 20X scopes fixed power scopes.
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