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    Re: Old Army / New Army

    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyG View Post
    I use Crisco too, but it melts in the summer heat.
    The beeswax/tallow mix also smells. It isn't exactly a pleasant smell, but it isn't horrible.

    If I remember right, I avoided Crisco because the melting point would make it a bit difficult to handle on a healthy Texas day.

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    Re: Old Army / New Army

    Different manufacturers of percussion caps fit more snuggly - I thankfully stocked up on RWS a long time ago

    I have tried both Slix Shot and Ampco nipples
    but Track of the Wolf stainless steel tapered cones fit and seal the best -
    chain fires have been attributed to poorly fitting percussion caps -
    besides jamming if they come loose

    when seating the ball shaves a ring of lead all around is key

    Rather than seal on top of the ball I use felt lubed patches between charge and ball
    WonderLube makes them as well as Cabelaís, or you can make yourself -
    I never lube on top of the ball, and have never experienced a chain fire myself - though seen others
    This solves the meting problem and helps minimize fouling at the bore and arbor

    I love a challenge and am not put off by getting dirty - sometimes enjoy doing things the hard way
    Often times woodworking I will prefer to use hand tools for the precision, control and feel🦊
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    Re: Old Army / New Army

    Oh! I never considered that chain fire ignition could come through the percussion cap, but I suppose it could.

    I do know that putting grease (or Vaseline) in the cylinder on top of the balls stopped the chain fires. (And yes, lead would shear from the balls but I'd still get chain fires until the grease came along.)

    I don't remember what brand of percussion caps I used. The last time I had any was around 1980. They came in steel cans with blue labels on top... ?

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    Machine Gunner moosem14's Avatar
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    Re: Old Army / New Army

    The lubed felt wads on top of the charge seem to seal as well or better than greasing on top of the ball
    Plumbers used to use compacted lead wool (like steel wool instead made of lead) to join and seal pipes back in the day, and roofers to seal flashing in masonry
    If that lead ball is rammed in tight to the cylinder an Iíll fitting cap seems a likely source of chain fire ignition - or so Iíve been told🦊
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    First Shirt Sustinemus's Avatar
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    I'd sure like to have that pistol and belt back. :(
    I was dummy for parting with it. The gun belt was a work of art (made by me).
    The really bad part was that I never got paid for it.
    It was a sort of quasi-wedding gift to the groom of a friend though, so... Ancient history.
    Still wish I had it though. ;)

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    I've played with a few BP pistola's in my time too.......yes - very dirty business, but enjoyable past time.....

    The '58 did bind up considerably as compared to the 1875 - never really noticed it a lot with the open top models....
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    Very nice display of your hardware ! S/F...Goat

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    Beautiful set, brassmagnet! Very nice!

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    I like what Moose did and I would likely do the same with the conversion cylinders !

    Black powder can be fun until you have to clean them !


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