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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    Just to add what Jim11B20 said, these tipped bullets are supposed to have a higher ballistic coefficient too. They make it in 168's and 175's too, I just haven't found any yet.
    Sheesh. Shows how far in the past I'm living. I'd heard of the tipped version but bullets are the only thing I have a good supply of and had not studied on it.

    I have got to roll some .30/06 for my Model 70 Target and we can have some friendly competition.

    It has the barrel mounted Redfield scope blocks and I will not get the receiver D&Ted for a modern mount. So I'll use either a 15X Lyman Super Target spot or for something really wierd, the scope that was on it when I bought it. Its a Bausch and Lomb Balvar 6-24X. It is an external adjustment scope and rather than turret knobs to adjust wind and elev it has rings that rotate around the scope tube.

    I've never shot that scope. I already have a ton of trouble going from iron sights with "service rifle directions" to match rifle sights (and scopes) with "match rifle directions".

    Last mid range prone match I shot I used the a M1903 match rifle with irons for the first stage. The Model 70T for the 2nd stage. My M1A match gun for the last stage. The M1A elevation was good but the wind was off so I started cranking the wind knob. POI kept getting worse - getting to the edge of the black. After several shots I started to make another adjust and it dawned on my little pea brain I was turning the wind knob the wrong direction.

    I put my head down and shook it. Then turned around to look at my scorekeeper and he was laughing. He said "I saw you doing that but rules are I cannot coach in an individual match" .

    I learned on the Garand and M14 that windage adjustment is "push - right, and pull - left". But match rifle sights and scopes are opposite. Had I not shot those 2 match rifle first I would have been OK with the M1A.

    As it is now before I adjust match rifle sights or a scope I have to think real hard before I turn the dial.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

    Some friendly competition with bolt rifles, would be fine with me, especially .308's and 30-06's! I don't have a bolt rifle in a lesser caliber.
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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    Some friendly competition with bolt rifles, would be fine with me, especially .308's and 30-06's! I don't have a bolt rifle in a lesser caliber.
    Me neither.

    I have the Mod 70T in .30/06, two M1903 based match rifles in .308, and my wifle has a Rem 40X in 7.62mm.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

    Had a chance to check this 195 grain TMK rounds with an added grain of powder, the old rifle doesn't disappoint. Shot two 5 round groups, first group measured .709 inch with my calipers, the second group was .681. The best 175 SMK load I shot was a bit smaller, but I think I'll like the 195's better for 600 yards. 12 groups in a row, all sub MOA.
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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

    Outstanding.

    You've given me the itch to dig the Model 70 Target out of the safe.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    Outstanding.

    You've given me the itch to dig the Model 70 Target out of the safe.
    I like this M70 so much, I would buy another one!
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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    I like this M70 so much, I would buy another one!
    Bob Jones is the guy who sells the lenses that fit in a Garand or M14 NM aperture and some other stuff. About 3 years ago he stopped by the Firecracker 4800 match. He was trying to sell his post 64 Win Mod 70 Target .30/06 with sights. Had a MR31 target with a ten shot clean.

    He was asking $500. I passed because I had one just like it. Now I regret it.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    Bob Jones is the guy who sells the lenses that fit in a Garand or M14 NM aperture and some other stuff. About 3 years ago he stopped by the Firecracker 4800 match. He was trying to sell his post 64 Win Mod 70 Target .30/06 with sights. Had a MR31 target with a ten shot clean.

    He was asking $500. I passed because I had one just like it. Now I regret it.
    With what I know about this rifle, I would have bought that rifle in a heartbeat!
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    Re: 30-06 195 Grain Sierra TMK's Winchester M70

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    With what I know about this rifle, I would have bought that rifle in a heartbeat!
    Yup.

    Major screw up on my part. One of many.

    I expect the receiver was worth that much.

    Had I bought the rifle the situation at home would have gone downhille pretty hard.

    That after me buying her a Rem 40X smallbore and getting it glass bedded, plus buying her a Rem 40X clip slotted, magazine fed in 7.62mm.

    Hard to win sometimes.
    “After all is said and done, successful rifle shooting on the range is nothing more than first finding a rifle and lot of ammunition which will do precisely the same thing shot after shot, and then developing the same skill in the rifleman.” ~ Capt. E. C. Crossman (The Book of the Springfield)

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